"B.S. The comments at Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM were debunking the broken "busted minimums" mantra that some armchair NTSB investigators on here are parroting here from their misinterpretation of inprecise FlightAware data. Newer pilot here so my apologies for any ignorance. The stack would not have been hit had the pilot not busted minimums and gone below the MDA. They see the tater plant as a job producer airport more of a nuisance. At that point, the pilot would be using external visual references or at least trying to. Recently she appeared on Los Angeles television representing airport interests in a debate with the Airport Neighbors Association. The witness has the Caravan coming out of the clouds, then very quickly entering the steam produced by the stacks, right before the collision. Reply Delete. Aviation don't care who you are. 2 dead in crash between F-16, Cessna 01:06. After being "on" at JAMID, these were the descent angles flown:From JAMID to Data Point "B", angle flown was -4.1From Data Point "B" to Data Point "A", angle flown was -6.5, For comparison of speeds, alts, angle flown, map-pin locations:C208B N585SA flew N928JP's duty/schedule SLC to BYI on 15 April.https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInquiry/Search/NNumberResult?nNumberTxt=N585SAN585SA's landing 15 April into Burley RW20 in VFR conditions:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N585SA/history/20220415/1339Z/KSLC/KBYIhttps://flightaware.com/live/flight/N585SA/history/20220415/1339Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklogMETAR during landing:KBYI 151430Z AUTO 27009KT 10SM FEW043 BKN055 OVC080 01/M02 A2992(Note A2992 in METAR, makes reported ADS-B altitudes true)At location 355 feet NEast of JAMID as Data Point 1:Fri 10:33:11 AM 42.5672 -113.7434 216 120 138 4,825 -830maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5672+-113.7434Data Point 2, -225'AltDiff, 3,415' distant from 1 = -3.8Fri 10:33:28 AM 42.5598 -113.7511 219 120 138 4,600 -821maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5598+-113.7511Data Point 3, -350'AltDiff, 5,115' distant from 2 = -3.9Fri 10:33:53 AM 42.5487 -113.7627 217 119 137 4,250 -840maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5487+-113.7627Raw 15 April BYI METAR link:https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/cgi-bin/request/asos.py?station=BYI&data=all&year1=2022&month1=4&day1=15&year2=2022&month2=4&day2=16&tz=Etc%2FUTC&format=onlycomma&latlon=no&elev=no&missing=M&trace=T&direct=no&report_type=1&report_type=2, When substitute C208B N585SA flew N928JP's duty/schedule into BYI RW20 two days after the crash in VFR conditions as detailed above, that pilot maintained 120 knots ground speed plus the headwind at the time resolved from 27009KT at BYI.The 3.8 to 3.9 angle flown by the substitute aircraft on 15 April between JAMID and Data Point 3's 7th avenue at Snake River location was NOT a "clear the potato plant, then dive for the runway" approach.Was the accident pilot accustomed to flying at a lower approach speed into BYI than she would maintain for a longer runway, such as TWF?The divert landing to TWF RW26 on the day before the accident shows 102 knots ground speed in the 27018KT wind there, which is an airspeed of 120 knots at that last data point located approximately 2100 feet distant from the threshold:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.4805+-114.4631The accident aircraft's 4 April landing to BYI RW20 in VFR conditions showed 87 knots ground speed in the 23009KT wind there at the time, which is an airspeed of 96 knots at that last data point located just after passing over the potato plant: http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5501+-113.7611It is possible that the accident pilot was accustomed to routinely flying the BYI approach at reduced airspeed but experienced diminishing lift at the lower approach speed during the accident approach due to contamination accumulation on flight surfaces that built up during two approach attempts in light snow and mist.She was "on" at JAMID, flew a 4.1 descent angle about halfway to the potato plant, then the descent angle increased to 6.5 in the final 21 seconds on the way to the stack.Links:Diverted flight, 12 April:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220412/1300Z/KSLC/KBYIPrevious N928JP BYI RW20 landing, 4 April:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220404/1318Z/KSLC/KBYI. (ADS-B granularity in increments of 25 feet altitude, with rounding and accuracy limitations in FlightAware's processed data reduces precision, but attempting to compensate each point for local pressure variation from 29.92 is eliminated by this technique. Doing so would eliminate suspicion that there might be cherry picking going on. . It is this 140 foot radio tower near the United Metals Recycling plant, which is 0.6 NM north east of the Gem State stack :https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5584036,-113.7480359,3a,86.2y,335.86h,111.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfD-logCbUr79CSW4DcVyPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656Curiously, none of the Gem State stacks are notated anywhere on the approach plate. I wouldn't start speculating that they hit the silos, without proof, because those of us who live there see no indication that the silos or cooling towers were touched. Sometimes it's relevant to the accident but most often than not, it just adds a layer of emotion that I can do without.When I look at this story, I tend to reason backwards: the Caravan hit a stack. In general, FlightAware is not intended to be an accurate indication of aircraft altitudes and positions for forensic purposes, so armchair investigators would do well not to draw detailed conclusions from FA data. Additionally, the aircraft should have been approximately 100 feet to the right of the stacks if the needles/diamonds are centered and on the approach path. For whatever reason, she was below MDA, and I'm guessing they'll find fuel starvation. The A/FD mentions the threshold is displayed 305 feet due to the stack. That 31,000-fpm descent rate is one of the last pieces of usable radar data the Nashville TRACON's radar recorded from N66BK, a Cessna Citation 501, before it crashed into Lake Percy Priest . . Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. For rise, the difference between the uncompensated raw reported altitudes at the two points will be used. Updated. She not only saw the best in people, she brought out the best in people. The POH manual in most light singles states that you don't deploy flaps during an engine out until your aim point can be confirmed to be made just as in regular landing configuration when powered. There are less than 4,000 feet available for landing. Accident Investigation report not yet completed, but information verified through authorities or other sources. But I admire the heck out of him! A few days later, add 800 million to hurry it up. Minor injuries to two aboard. The plane headed towards Kenedy Regional Airport prior to crashing. Wonder who got paid off to approve that nonsense building permit. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. sadly, we'll never know what she was seeing or thinking in those final moments. Besides, every "pilot" who mentions how "slow" an aircraft was flying based on these data have lost complete credibility and their opinions are not relevant. Frost changes the basic aerodynamics of the airfoil, thereby causing reduced lift.Ice collects on and seriously hampers the function of not only wings and control surfaces and propellers, but also windscreens and canopies, radio antennas, pilot tubes and static vents, carburetors and air intakes. You clearly don't know how ASOS works. Presumably, the decision to descend from cruise altitude for BYI on the accident day followed similar protocol.Let's look at the METARs available for making the real-time decision on each of those two days:The divert from BYI to Twin Falls on the day before the accident shows up as a turn toward TWF underway at 14:52:44 Z. Juan Brown on the Blancolirio YouTube Channel mentions the icing conditions. She was also trained in aerobatic flying, advanced spin training, and upset recovery training. That building and stack was constructed relatively recently. Also, from a 2020 article:"Both Rex and Doris have been avid aviators since 1948. It's just a matter of how priorities are arranged. With luck there will be a SD card data record to help in understanding. Excellent comment. From the many news sources From the ntsb, it was the steam cloud:"According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. "4,000 feet"How to tell us you aren't a pilot without telling us you aren't a pilot. Main point is that a smokestack directly below and that close to the approach path is a really bad idea whether it's 61' or 109' because there's an inadequate safety factor. My guess is in the cold they are creating their own little obscuring weather system. The crash happened in shallow surf around 3:15 p.m. A witness captured video showing the Cessna 150A gradually dropping from the sky, hitting the sand and then flipping over not far from beachgoers. Kathryn's Report: Most Read All Time. Flying time at 80 kts ground speed was just 16 sec, break out to tower. These facts were demonstrated to tragic effect on March 15, 2012. YOU DO NOT NEED TRIG OR OTHER BULL. 18. Such a bad place for a 10 story tall obstruction :(, Here are 2 images of what ForeFlight synthetic vision would have shown at 4300' and 4560' (MDA) respectively https://photos.app.goo.gl/dHgeEAniT9PpWu3o7. If visibility was 1 SM, and the ASOS is 600' west of the threshold, then the pilot broke out only 2100' (lateral distance) before the tower. If you are flying on a very cold day, (like Brittney Infanger), and enter a condensate cloud, you will be blinded and lose lift due to the anomaly of stagnant or descending warm air. The YouTube "Clown" commingled an half-assed apology with begging for $cash money$ be sent to him. 0. "Clipped from the July 1975 Newsletter:https://www.ninety-nines.org/pdf/newsmagazine/197507.pdf(See pdf sheet 5)Also, a 1967 99's newsletter asks members to write Mayor Minter letters, because the Orange County Chapter was still fighting to keep SMO open at that time.https://www.ninety-nines.org/pdf/newsmagazine/196704.pdf(See pdf sheet 15, top left)If not for the Minter's efforts, SMO would have been closed and surrendered to developers decades ago. And red frames/ladders would have been added solely so the personnel could go up easily to do stack sampling for environmental compliance, suggesting that the stacks existed by themselves for many years, before the exit point sampling requirement began. "The captains change to a vertical speed approach after failing to capture the profile glidepath was not in accordance with UPS procedures and guidance and decreased the time available for the first officer to perform her duties." She was so young and beautiful and now she is gone. Interestingly, he showed FAA correspondence admitting that the plant stacks penetrated the approach surface. 1, 1, 1 1/2, 2 statute mile visibility was not previously discussed in comments.) Additionally, someone posted where the chimney was located, about 100 feet to the left. The stacks are about 2050 feet from the runway end as marked by the threshold bar before the "piano keys" and not including the displaced threshold. Controller com CESSNA Aircraft For Sale 1229 Listings. Both wings, the propeller assembly, belly pod, and the nose wheel separated from the fuselage. According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. Coming in hot and high is a poor practice in any airplane; in a jet, it can eat up an awful lot of runway. Good observation about first occurrence. At that point, runway or runway lighting were visible but not necessarily the thin grey stack in between. )How far is the approach path above the smokestack? The pilot, 79, accepted the . With airlines short of pilots, why was this 30 year old college grad "COMMERCIAL PILOT Date of Issue: 1/3/2020" flying UPS 208 Grand Caravans? The lights would have been hazy through a fog of snow and steam. Private Jet Sales Exclusive Aircraft. First, it is sad that we lost such a wonderful young lady who had nothing but love in her heart and who served others selflessly. Skydive Kauai Cessna 182 crash NTSB final report. Please keep in mind, comments on tragedies like these sometimes come from, and are seen by, people who knew them. "It seems very likely that the Caravan was out of the clouds well before reaching the MDH. The wreckage will be recovered on Wednesday, June 8. No, he did not fly away from the airport after declaring an emergency. A non-precision step down IFR approach to minimums is one of the hardest things any Pilot is ever called upon to do. There are no obstruction clearance guarantees below the MDA. There are less than 4,000 feet available for landing. There is no need to conflate the egregious errors in the case of N56KJ. A National Transportation Safety Board investigator arrived on the scene on Tuesday. LOL Whatever the case, it's clear from the NTSB report that the mob that was fixated on "busted minimums" was wrong. I can't tell, from Google Maps, if there is a light for that chimney. Either they didn't meet the criteria for inclusion or it was an oversight by the FAA. To Anonymous, dated Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM EDTQuestion: What explanation do you have besides your technical dissertation of how to interpret ADS-B data for what occurred besides the broken busted minima mantra? "What a bunch of BS. Unless you are unable to. Sometimes, a thin coating of ice will form on the windshield, preceded in some instances by frosting. I know this is a LNAV approach so vertical guidance is not provided as it is on a precision approach.Here is the approach plate: you have to zoom in to see the 4304' stackhttps://flightaware.com/resources/airport/BYI/IAP/RNAV+(GPS)+RWY+20/pdfHere is the track-log:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklog. you think it's unreasonable for a pilot to descend to a standard 3.0 degree glidepath once they have the runway in sight?When the glidepath specified on the approach is 3.75 degrees, yes, yes I do. There is no "glidepath", "decision altitude", "needles" (plural), or any sort of vertical guidance at all. Not sure if runway lights would be on, since it was 8:32 AM MDT with sunrise an hour and a half earlier at 6:56 AM. On February 2, 2021, at 1744 central standard time, a Cessna 182Q airplane, N4765N, was destroyed when it was involved in an accident near Hackberry, Louisiana. He also attempted to do a recreation of the approach into KBYI by scud-running with a non-IFR rated pilot, seemingly violating cloud clearance requirements and also not making any calls on the CTAF frequency during his approach. Easy enough to fact check using Adsbexchange and the LiveAtc recording.Results:-Cleared for takeoff @7 minute mark on LiveAtc-ADS-B shows airborne by @23:08:23Z-Flies along coast, gets halfway to Malibu-No airspeed or altitude trouble so far-ADS-B shows a turnback starting @23:14:00-"I'd like to return" @14 minute mark LiveAtc-ADS-B speed & altitude degrading on the way back-Declares Emergency just before 16 minute mark -ATC offers "left base for runway 3" @17 minute mark-ADS-B shows crossing the pier @23:18:04Simple to listen to comm audio source files for yourself:https://www.liveatc.net/archive.phpThis accident's file is found by selecting:Date: 22 December, Time: 2300-2330Z, Feed: "KSMO Tower #1". Not surprising an elderly person might have difficulty surviving that. ADS-B does report a GPS altitude (although Flightaware does not show it), however this altitude is height above the ellipsoid, which can vary from true MSL by up to 150 feet depending where in the country you are, and this will also be different than the corrected barometric altitude shown on the pilot's altimeter due to a variety of factors that I won't go into here. In all rear-bath floor plans, the 2023 model features a cathedral ceiling, which is a Newmar first. Reply. Sunrise was 6:56. (Which is common in CFIT accidents non precision approaches). Please stop commenting on things you don't even comprehend or until you bother to understand the known facts. i suggest you read it, and digest it. The view under the wing would give you about a mile as reported at the airport. I highly doubt a certified pilot who clearly was enjoying flying out of SMO would want to close it. It is however possible to experience a flameout and subsequent loss of power under certain conditions. Silos? Even a small city is a maze of confusing lights at night. As any pilot knows, the altitudes reported by FlightAware are uncorrected pressure altitudes and do not reflect the corrected indicated barometric altitude that pilots reference for assigned altitudes, MDA, etc. Left wing may have been inertia-separated.The wrecked engine bay is visible to the right of the flipped forward pilot's door and the PT-6 air plenum is identifiable in that torn open forward bay wreckage.Kameraone.com's scene video:https://www.kameraone.com/trending-stories/#7568616, For reference, a C208B PT-6 air plenum example photo:https://media.sandhills.com/img.axd?id=7257643989&wid=4326165471&rwl=False&p=&ext=&w=0&h=0&t=&lp=&c=True&wt=False&sz=Max&rt=0&checksum=MwQ%2b3%2fmnuLw%2bzq2hh%2ftYM0KEexS1%2fpTBK5zoSVQPYb8%3d, Active snow fall is captured after the 14 second mark in this video of the crash scene. "The captains poor performance during the accident flight was consistent with past performance deficiencies in flying nonprecision approaches noted during training; the errors that the captain made were likely the result of confusion over why the profile did not engage, his belief that the airplane was too high, and his lack of compliance with standard operating procedures." (Note: BYI METAR winds were 200 at 7 to 8 knots during both approaches. He saw the KR comments detailing 2 statute mile visibility METAR trending 2.5 miles with lowest clouds well above MDA and also the correlated and mapped descent angle calculations.Tuber commenting by the mindless fans is praising him for apologizing in what was just his latest heartless disparaging of a lost pilot for views. The pilot initially replied negative, then subsequently replied that she had crossed the fix. If she didn't hit the tower, she would of hit the parking lot. "It was a 100% bound to happen eventuality." Your top of stack AGL estimate is off somehow - the building roof would have to be 90 feet high. The first structures to accumulate ice are the surfaces with thin leading edges: antennas, propeller blades, horizontal stabilizers, rudder, and landing gear struts. "It doesn't seem like you understand how ASOS works. The altimeter at the destination airport was 29.97, so the pressure altitude correction would be +50 feet, that combined with FlightAware's rounding error and a +/- 75 foot allowed altimeter variance means the pilot may not have busted the MDA on the first approach as was implied. (see threads further below), It may show in this picture where the aircraft impacted the yellow ladder apparatus and dented the smokestack. There is a LOT of detail logged in the G1000 system onboard these aircraft. Yes, sorry about the typo, runway 20, not 30. This seems to fall into the category of :"stuff happens.". This is a place where we learn what not to do next time. Precision matters to actual pilots. Many of these pilots require a certain amount of 'hand holding' before being turned loose on their own. Brittney often told those who had the privilege of flying with her that she never felt closer to heaven than she did when flying. No experience on type but that seems like a big airplane for a little runway. The left wing shows most of the damage where it connects to the fuselage. Date: Saturday 29 May 2021: Time: 0.26639294624329: Type: Cessna 501 Citation I/SP: A financial firm CEO was killed along with three others when a small plane that he was flying crashed shortly after takeoff in Georgia, according to reports . All 5 of his points are irrefuteable. A wing collided with a tractor trailer, causing the aircraft to overturn into a tree line next to the road. If she was trading altitude to maintain airspeed after a flameout, seems like it would be important to get an idea of what minimum airspeed should be maintained, knowing that the stacks were ahead.The TL:DR for the details shown below is that she was holding 89/88 knots airspeed in the 30 seconds or so before stack impact compared to 96 knots across the tater plant on 4 April's RW20 approach.If you were the C208 pilot and had adequate visual of the ground so near, would you have shallowed the altitude trade off and accepted a lower airspeed than 88 knots to squeak over the tater plant?------ Backup info ------To provide a reference on judging whether airspeed decayed in a manner different from what she would have flown normally (acknowledging the sink rates reported in the data), compare speeds by looking at the last two captured data points as she turned across the tater plant during the uneventful 4 April approach to RW20:Using track log data from:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220404/1318Z/KSLC/KBYIMon 09:52:44 AM 42.5539 -113.7523 271 83 96 4,675 -385Map pinned location of that data point:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5539+-113.7523Mon 09:53:05 AM 42.5501 -113.7611 219 87 100 4,475 -571Map pinned location of that data point:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5501+-113.7611(The 42.5501+-113.7611 location is approx 670 feet closer to the airfield than the struck stack. 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