Psalm 22:15-18 speaks of Jesus when He would be on the cross; Psalm 22:27-29 takes us to the End and on into the Millennium. 18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. of Olives. (Link below in '1. Though we recommend the book in its entirety. This is particularly problematic since other avenues for proving the imminency of the rapture, whether historical or deductive, have been inconclusive at best. In Luke 17:36 Jesus gave a prophecy that one day two men will be standing in a field. His truth gives us confidence in His planHis truth will never instill fear in us. To believe that the Rapture can happen at any time, and could possibly happen out-of-the-blue, with no connection to surrounding events and with no advance notice at all from Godsuch a view of the Rapture goes directly against the spirit of Amos 3:7. LUKE 21:21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains Again, there is exegetical evidence, but again, we are not 'arguing' the case, merely presenting a pre Tribulational view. QUESTION:Mary from Texas had a question about Luke 21:36 where it says, I watch therefore and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass and to stand before the Son of Man. Do some people think this is speaking of the rapture? 4 All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on." During the rapture, Overcomers are Caught Up, and then come back down to earth with Jesus at His Second Coming/Return of Christ after the trials/cleansing. 29 and 30 Jesus uses an analogy that is clearly understood. As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. TEXT. Here is the short article again regarding Jesus not knowing, and at the end, an even shorter article for more clarity. Can the Bible be any clearer about His/Jesus Deity being equal to God? Revelation 19:17-18 and Ezekiel 39:17-19 each describe a scene where birds will . 28 When these things begin to take place . Jesus never teaches Imminence or the any moment rapture or that from the days of Christ, we should always be ready and watch. These three vss are NOT talking about the Rapture! 10 and 11 Jesus says what will beBUTBEFORE those things take place vss 12-19 take place. Just because Daniel chapter 12 follows chapter 11 in the text, does NOT necessarily mean that the time of fulfillment of Daniel 12s prophecies are after the time of fulfillment in Daniel 11s prophecies. Please tell me what this verse means Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man. Again and again I see this verse associated with the Rapture but then that would imply if I dont live a godly life I could be passed by, right? The short time detail regarding Satan, is one of the GREATEST indicators that Revelation 12, and the birth of the man child, is speaking about the Rapture/Catching Up/Caught Upbefore the Great Tribulation. What is the definition of, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye? "The one shall be taken, and the other shall be left" (Luke 17:34). We will add the following: The time period ranges pending our location on the earth on any given day. It is a Tribulation-Return passage. In the Jewish culture, the astronomical event, or idiom of the twinkling of an eye as defined through the Authors Jewish resources in Systematic Eschatology in brevity, is this: The twinkling of an eye starts when the sun visually touches the horizon on sunset, lasting until it disappears behind the horizon. In the Jewish Culture, the Priests knew the importance of being ready and the consequences of NOT being ready. Please review our Timeline and accompanying video tutorial on our website to see how God chose to present Revelation. fill in more details. After understanding Luke 21, who is willing to limit Jesus? At Revelation 6:9, Jesus goes back in time to the beginning of the Tribulation, and tells us about the persecution that will be happening before (in time) the completion of all the events described in Revelation 6:1-8. If all believers are caught up during the Second Coming of Christ at the end of the Tribulation, then only unbelievers are left upon the earth. Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. vs. 8 Jesus said, dont be deceived! Luke 21:36New International Version. Conversely. For our 3 second friends and critics, vss 10-19 take place right after the rapture (vss 12-19, then vss 10-11 according to Jesus). So, Christs return to earth has taken place. Listen to our Bible studies now from your browser. Systematic Eschatology, search thief found on pages 3, 34, 51 & 74. Many Christians assume He's describing the rapture and . If you go to Revelation 14:13, it tells us there what that means. No! Doing so seems to fulfill Acts 18:6 and 2 Timothy 2:25, and also seems to prevent the understanding of His prophetic Word. In the Left Behind series, as well as in many other similar works of both fiction and non-fiction, the Rapture occurs totally by surprise. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting (indulgences), and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. Paul said that we will be "caught up" (raptured) to meet Him IN THE AIR. It occurs in the context of the judgments at the second coming not the rapture of the church. (adverbially) suddenly sudden, unawares.. see GREEK a. see GREEK phaino. We each have our Spiritual gifts. There are four references to the length of a generation in the Bible. In the King James Version, in 5:9, we read, "And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed US to God by thy blood" The redeemed say this just before the first seal is opened, so that the Tribulation can begin. And no human will be swept away up into the clouds to safety. So, Jesuss words in Luke 21:36 about escaping all these things, could really be a strong reference to this. This verse summarizes the sheep and goat judgment which He later describes in greater detail in Matthew 25:31-46. THAT is your standard, for deciding which way you will believe on this issue. The Ark went up during the judgements, and then came back down to earth at the conclusion of the trial/cleansing. The Word of God says that we will have to endure tribulation. What does the Bible say about the rapture? THIS group in heaven sings the song of the redeemed, and identify these redeemed as us themselves! After reading the articles in the link, and the verses above, because of the Holy Spirit, we can have full confidence in the voice of Jesus as we follow Him now through Luke 21. At Jesus' second coming, He brings the Saints (us) with Him and comes to the Mt. vss. March 19, 2020 Jesus is credited in John 1:1-3 as being the Creator of all things ("Without Him was not anything made that was made"). In the Church, we too must know the importance of being ready (starting with what Jesus tells us in Luke 21 and in the Timeline Chart), and the consequences of NOT being ready. His wife Samantha maintains this site as well as their missionary outreaches. Noah and his family were Overcomers graciously removed, as the Ark rose above the trial/cleansing. Luke 17:36 Jesus said, " Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left" (Luke 17:36 also Matthew 24:40). It seems unreasonable to . However, Jesus mentions escaping all of the tribulations, not simply a singular destruction of the Temple. Matthew 24:30, Mark 13:26, Luke 21:27, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Read full chapter. The rapture, often referred to as God graciously removing Overcomers from the trials/cleansing/judgements on the earth, is also seen in the account of the flood. Luke 20:36 (HCSB) For they cannot die anymore, because they are like angels and are sons of God, . 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. So, when so many people say that Jesus does not know the day and hour, Biblically speaking, they are not only lessening Jesus' knowledgethey are also lessening Jesus' ability as Creator. Here are the open, public standards God has provided in His word, which should be used, to evaluate if we can truly assist you in understanding Bible prophecy: Use the Contact Us button on our website: HisCenter.com, Or use Private Messenger through Facebook: HisCenter.com on Facebook, If you dont believe in a Rapture, please find our position near the bottom of this article.*. We know Jesus knows every detailJesus teaches in Luke 21. If we die and are tethered to sin and are unrepentant, we cannot enter into heaven. Revelation 20:1-5, Ezekiel 37:26-28, Ezekiel 11:20 and Zechariah 14:8-11. All. The disciples asked where these individuals in vv. In Revelation 3:7, Jesus says that He can open the door because He carries the key of David. 5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said, 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. At that time, Jesus will return with great power to. When you see His Center teach that Jesus was not ignorant of the day and hour of His return, do not evaluate our teaching based on what a majority of Christians believe. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. So they obviously had to have been in it in the first place. It is true that somewhere there will two people together and one is taken while the other is left, however, that is not what is spoken of in Matthew 24 because of the context. The destruction of the Temple did occur in 70 A.D. That is an historical fact. This seems to be confirmed in Luke 21:36 where Jesus gives advice to pray always to be counted worthy to escape these coming horrors and to stand before the Son of Man. And our faith suffers as a result. Jesus doesn't know the day and hour) should automatically be seen as suspect, and wrong. There He simply said "day that the Son of Man." The term "Son of Man" is a reference to Himself. In either case, Paul would not be able to put any issue to rest by referring to something not yet revealed. Right? Could a limited Jesus who doesnt knowteach the exact timing and the events of Luke 21, AND tell us WHEN to look up, for when these things happen, our redemption draweth nigh? Why should Christians pray, and for what? . And then follow the Holy Spirits leading. Then based on that, decide if you should include us as one of your resources with which you understand Bible prophecy. J.A. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, The "falling away" in the Church (this detail is meaningful, because during the persecution of the Great Tribulation, there will be no moral compromise among Christians; under the horrendous persecution of this period, you either are, or are not a follower of Christthere will be no middle ground to "fall away" into). 3 "Truly I tell you," he said, "this poor widow has put in more than all the others. He was already the Suffereing Servantnow He will be the Conqering King. These studies also cover the Rapture (removing the Church from earth to Heaven), the seven year Great Tribulation - concluding with Armageddon - and the return in great power and glory of Judge Jesus Himself. 1 As Jesus looked up, he saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. One of the more creative defenses I have seen against the pre-trib rapture (or the rapture in general) is that Luke 21:36 does not mean "escape" as we would think of it: Luke 21:36 KJV - Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Daniel 12:4. 25:31-40) ready to enter the . 25:31-46. However, in the Lord's return to the earth, it is the lost who are taken outjust the opposite of what happens in the rapture of the Church. God does NOT always speak in the way we are used to hearing. 11 A critical problem for the posttribulational rapture view is its inability to explain the Sheep and Goat Judgment of Matthew Mat. *For those who dont believe that a Rapture or Catching Up or Caught Up 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and Revelation 12:5 will take place1 Thessalonians 4:17 and Revelation 12:5. We fully recognize from His Word, that He reveals things in His timing and increases knowledge in His timing, especially as we are approaching The End of Days. Jesus said these things in 32 AD. During the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. The same thing happens in Revelation 6. Maybe the Christian resists the temptation to follow the false Messiahs and escapes them, allowing him to stand before the Son of man (Lk. Also, God defines Bible prophecy not just as speaking about predicting the future; It dismantles the perfect knowledge Jesus has as perfect, unlimited God (Colossians 2:9). Amos {3:7} Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Obviously we realize it is easy for anyone to claim the gift of understanding prophecy, and the first two questions you may be asking are: Well, how do I know the people at His Center have the gift of understanding prophecy? In both the rapture and in the Lord's return to the earth, there are those who are taken and those who are left behind. The Timeline link will help, and has a video tutorial to accompany it. Jesus now sums it up with verse 28, which is the calling for us to know what to watch for related to the timing of the rapture (caught up)that takes place before Luke 21:10, and after a period of time that follows Luke 21:7-9. Any time we give our view of the word of God, what we say about a given passage should agree not just with that passage, but with other Scriptures that speak on that topic as well. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. In this we find a good example of how to properly determine the timing of different prophetic passages. And, you dont have to rely on us to do that for you. 34-35 would be taken. Therefore, when we point out that there is a jump of time between Luke 21:19 and Luke 21:20, for example, we are not proposing a nonsensical, radical way of reading prophecy. Luke 21:36 is a passage many believers in the rapture will quote, which says, . It is also interesting that when Jesus revealed truth about the Tribulation to John in the book of Revelation (see Revelation chapters 6-7), Jesus used the same pattern that He used in Luke 21! The first question I always get when I talk about teaching kids about the rapture is should we. When God promises through predictive prophecy that we will be saved by calling on Christ (note the predictive prophetic language: "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord SHALL be saved"), our salvation is more than just something that is promised to us as a statement of knowledge; our salvation is also brought into existence by the spiritual Creative act of Christ alone. Doesnt Luke 21:36 Tell Us We Are Not Going to Go Through the Tribulation? Jesus is credited in John 1:1-3 as being the Creator of all things ("Without Him was not anything made that was made"). Instead of being in the middle of an earthquake, maybe he finds shelter quickly or is in the next town over. I Corinthians 2:13 says we should be comparing spiritual things with spiritual as we follow God. One purpose of the rapture is to give relief from the suffering and persecution after 7 years not to escape the suffering and persecution before it happens. Jesus said, WATCH, PRAY that ye may be accounted worthy to escape. Christ is not limited in Colossians 2:9, but is equal in all the fullness. The true church, the "born again" believers that make up the body of Christ, is spiritually awake and will have the strength (worthiness) to escape all these things that are going to take place. Bible prophecy is defined as Gods ability to speak the future into existenceAs the Alpha and Omegaeverything has already happened for the Creator and Author. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. And to discredit it, simply and only because it does not appear in that one single Codex of Alexandria, is most unreasonable and unjust to the weight of authority for its retention. The Time of Jacob's Trouble (The Great Tribulation) Jesus tells us what the Holy Spirit hearsthe Holy Spirit will glorify Christ, receive from Christ and show it to us. vss. Yet, believers in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture believe there will be two Second Comings. I do know I feel a great deal of stress inside every time I read it as I become afraid that I wont be acceptable when the Lord comes for His Church. Luke 21:36 ESV. Consider these topics: **Jesus uses the term before in Luke 21:12 in at least two ways. The following is in response to the initial question and to disprove that Luke 21:20-24 is referring only to the destruction of the Temple, and Jerusalem, in 70 A.D. They believe that this passage is saying that we could escape all of the tribulations spoken of earlier on in Luke 21, which would mean that Luke 21:36 is a reference to a pre-trib rapture. We are talking meat and potatoes information here, not milk and cookies. The first phrase in this passage speaks about these signs in the heavens, picking up from where we left off in verse 11. Luke 21:25-28. So, God gives each Christian the ability to bless others with their specific giftlogically, God also gives some, the ability to understand His prophetic Word, blessing others. What are the deceptions? Verify what we are saying, according to the standards called for by the word of God. Likewise, why do we allow this heresy to immigrate into our faith? Is prophecy nothing more than knowing about the future? 78:69), as if it was a mini replica of the real thing. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! The evidences from the context, also argue powerfully for a construction which necessarily embraces it, whether expressed or not: We regard it as indubitably genuine.. ALL things were made by Jesus, and without Jesus, nothing was made. The Ark went up during the judgements, and then came back down to earth at the conclusion of the trial/cleansing. The Rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. The word of God is to be included as part of those spiritual things.. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. Jesus tells us to pray always, that we may be counted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and worthy to stand before the Son of man. You will not find the word "rapture" in the Bible. 9But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by (but the end will not come immediately). Jack Kelley published over 9,000 Bible Study resources here from 1999, until the Lord called him home in the fall of 2015. In preparing to follow Jesus voice in Luke 21 about the End, lets remind ourselves of how perfect and glorious Jesus is as God in the flesh. Which is how Jesus can tell us WHEN to. When Jesus says He is the Alpha and Omega, beginning and the end (Revelation 1:8 & 11, 21:6 & 13)He has already created everything throughout timebecause HE IS NOT LIMITED! If we tell Jesus He doesnt knowhow can He tell USwhat TO know? For instance, the creation in Genesis 1 is repeated without a clear timeline in Genesis 2. In turn, Bible prophecy has a unique and miraculous capacity to glorify Jesus Christ. Evaluate our teaching based on whether it truly satisfies the standard, set by the Holy Spirit, that Jesus Christ should at all times be fully glorified. Does the account of the Flood align with a rapture viewpoint? We do not figure out the timing of prophetic passages by simply noting the order in which they are found in the text, as shown. In John 16:14, Jesus said this of God the Holy Spirit: He shall glorify me. One of the most widespread beliefs in the Church is that Jesus did not know the day and hour of His return, which we have covered several times now. 12-19 Jesus says what will bebut the question that must be answered is WHEN will vss 10-19 take place in the order given by Christ? 20-24 For our 3 second friends and critics, Jesus says what will happen during a 3 year period of time, during the last half of Daniels 70th week, and just before the return of Christ (7th Trumpet, 7th Vial/Bowl, 3rd Woe). It is true that when the rapture occurs there will be a separation of believers from unbelievers when we are snatched away from planet earth. But Luke 17:35 is much more . There are other verses and passages we believe bring out the Rapture as well. "The one shall be taken, and the other shall be left" (Luke 17:34). vs. 17 THEN, after those Christians that have died have their bodies miraculously put back together and raptured, or caught up to Him in the cloudsthen the Overcomers, which are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with THEM in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. At the last trump: Systematic Eschatology page 32 First off, 1 Corinthians was written in 52-53 A.D. and therefore, cannot be referring to any of the trumpets of Revelation, since Revelation would not be written for another 40 years. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Escape all these things, then, could be a reference to Gods guiding and protecting hand for His people. What do you gain? vs. 3. Jesus gives a stern warning in vs. 34. When we discuss the End Times prophecies, we know that a Timeline map, if you will, is critical to understanding how everything fits without having to dismiss some verses or find some miracle explanation for them. Then He goes back to the beginning of the Tribulation, and describes the persecution of Tribulation saints. For a more detailed explanation on the importance of how and why Jesus uses the term before in Luke 21:12and how this is similar to how Jesus revealed Tribulation events to John in the book of Revelationwe expound on Jesus usage of the before at the very end of this article.**. If we are going to argue that Satan had a short time left when Jesus was born 2,000 years ago, then there is very little in Gods word that we can be sure of. When describing the Tribulation in Luke 21, Jesus begins by speaking of the great and miraculous events and signs that will happen throughout the Tribulation. During the rapture, Overcomers are Caught Up, and then come back down to earth with Jesus at His Second Coming/Return of Christ after the trials/cleansing. ", We have to make this point over and over. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of . The results of said apathy and pride, limit THE Savior, Jesus Christ. His teachings made the Bible clear and easy to understand, and impacted millions of lives. When you count the number of verses used to describe what happens to the saints during the Tribulation (including the 144,000 sealed Jews in Israel), it is the same number of verses (17) as are used to describe all the other events of the Tribulation. Meanwhile, others will not join them on this journey (Matthew 24:40-41 and Luke 17:34-36). We ask you to follow the guidelines and standards called for in the Bibleand then simply hold us to those standards. When they now shoot forth (budding), ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. Although this text is usually typically taken to teach the "rapture" of believers to heaven when Christ returns, I tried to show that it teaches no such thing. What do you gain? Including photos each week from our outreaches and the weekly review. The extremely short version requires that we understand the History as to when the words were writtenThe thief in the night is part of the Jewish Culture and the Fall Festivals, and is directly related to how the High Priest would come like a thief to the other Priestsmeaningif the lower Priests were not ready for the arrival of the High Priest, because they were not watching at the right timethose Priests were cast out into the street with only their undergarments (meaning their clothes were taken from them like a thief). For God, prophecy is speaking (creating) the future into existence. Both Revelation 4-11 and 12-16 are giving details about the same events, from different perspectives. We cannot be safe, if we are carnally secure. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. This great work of God is leading us to the end of this age when Christ will return to rapture the Christians, and then set up His earthly kingdom for the Jews. The proof for this comes in 2 Thessalonians where Paul specifically applies to the church and says this, "you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. Here are fun facts to encourage our 3 second friends and critics to go through the Timeline article and video tutorialAs mentionedprophecy writing skips around. 00:00. In Youngs Literal Translation Luke 21:36 reads this way: watch ye, then, in every season, praying that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that are about to come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.. We only ask that each of us humbly submit ourselves to the Biblical standard that we are all underand pray for the Holy Spirit to teach us all things and show us things to come (John 16:13-15). 15:52. vs. 16 another confirmation of the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Speaking to a Gentile Audience. Because if we limit prophecy to only knowing about the futurethen we ignore and disregard God's infinite and unique ability to speak the future into existence. Even if you are a preterist, and date Revelation to late 62 A.D. it was still ten years later. 3 All things were made by him (Jesus); and without him (Jesus) was not any thing made that was made. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. * Speaking to a Jewish Audience. Amos 3:7, Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.. The only Entity who knew this prophetic truth before it was given to us, was Jesus Himself. However, escaping the tribulations could be a reference to a few other things. Jesus is the Speaker through all Old and New Testament prophecy. Luke 21:36 So keep watch at all times, and pray that you may have the strength to escape all that is about to happen and to stand before the Son of Man." Bible > Luke > Chapter 21 > Verse 36 eBibles Free Downloads Audio Luke 21:36 Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version Or the idea that Jesus deity was fully perfect? This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. The results? The Signs of the Times and the End of the Age. Use the Contact Us button on our website: Or use Private Messenger through Facebook: Mark 13:32, "No One Except The Father Knows? Seiss, a very prominent and still-respected commentator from the 19th Century, wrote the following on page 139 of his book, The Apocalypse: They are not unfilled beings, but ransomed sinners; for they give honor to Christ for redeeming themThou redeemed US by thy blood. Here is Seiss footnote on why the word us is used in Revelation 5:9: Some critics and expositors have rejected this (US), for the reason that it is omitted in the Codex Alexandrinus, and in the Ethiopic version; though the latter is not much more than a loose paraphrase. 37 And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives. while NOT contradicting other parts of Gods Word. vss. Romans 12:6-8, 1 Cor. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. So since we cannot take some scripture and disannul other scripture, and the scriptures clearly teach that the first resurrection happens immediately after the tribulation, then we know there is not a pre tribulation rapture. In Luke 21:31,32 the subject is the coming Kingdom of God. vs. 31 Jesus just told us what we should not be deceived by, and then what to watch for demonstrating the rapture is near (How can Jesus not know what He is teaching?). Jesus said these things in 32 AD. Even soWHY TEST HIM? And as you read them, consider this issue: limiting the Savior, Jesus Christ. Well explain this in 3c below. 25 "There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. Describing the fall of Jerusalem. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. vss. There was no promise that they would be removed from harms way before the Roman armies came as there is for us at the end of the age. For we do not know the time or the hour that we may die. If we ignore Jesus clear teachings, then the end truly will come at any moment for those who ignore Jesus prophetic words. Whether this world likes it or not, Jesus Christ will return to rapture his saints to God's kingdom. Jesus' second coming, referred to in Luke 21, will occur after the Rapture and at the end of the seven-year tribulation on this Earth. Our salvation is more than a prophetic promise that we will be in Heaven with God foreverbecause a mere promise can be modified, changed, or broken. 21:36). There are several Biblical reasons with verses as to why they are not raptured, but the focus here will be that they are not adhering to Luke 21 and the Importance of Watching, and what to watch for! Where the Scriptures say onethe Pre-Tribulation Rapture believers say two. Like this post? Colossians 2:9 says that all the fullness of the Godhead was in Jesus, bodily. Thanks for the reply Scott. The second phrase in Isaiah 61:2b, the day of vengeance of our God; is not going to be fulfilled until the End. This vs is saying that the dead in Christ will be raised first, just like 1 Cor. 14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay (contradict) nor resist. The first question, referring to the destruction of the temple, is answered in Luke 21:20-24 by a prophecy which was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. First off, Jesus is not only speaking here of the end of the world. As such, both passages contain material that was completely unknown and unknowable at our human level, before Jesus revealed it to us. *THE BACKGROUND OF THE TEXT IS THE TIME OF TRIBULATION. Systematic Eschatology, search thief found on pages 3, 34, 51 & 74. Luke 21:36 in all English translations. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Satan would seize every opportunity . 2 The same (Jesus) was in the beginning with God. . The more that true Bible prophecy is promoted, the more Jesus Christ will be glorified. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Based on the text, Teachers/Pastors should seek council from those with the gift of understanding Prophecy, to help prevent errors in their teachings to the Church, thus glorifying Christ to the fullest! These are events that will take place after the Second Coming of Christ. The rapture wasn't about to happen, but the destruction of Jerusalem, of which He had just spoken, was ( Luke 21:12-24 ). The Latin, Coptic or Memphitic, and Armenian, which are of great value, contain it. So, the descriptions of the earthly catastrophes, persecutions, and the armies surrounding Jerusalem to destroy it, refer particularly to the destruction of the Temple, which represents the destruction of the world. If so, why? By itself, this might not mean that the two people were men, for Greek (as in most languages) can use male words and pronouns to refer generically to "people" whether they are male or female. John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God. A quick intro and overview of our ministry and this website, plus some best-of articles and Q&A. Do not evaluate those views according to popular opinion. Bridgeway Bible Commentary. The Rapture really does happen but just as Matthew 24 states it is at the end of the great tribulation time, at the LAST TRUMPET. As mentioned, we read in the Bible that only 50% of Believers (the overcoming Believers) are raptured, because they were aware of what to watch for, not corrupted, not lost in the blinded Laodicean Church, but praying and watching, at the right time, as Jesus instructed, etc. Some use Luke 17:34-36 to teach the secret rapture belief but to understand the complete picture of this passage, we need to read the verses before and after. Part of studying and finding the truth is talking with peers about a topic and mainly consulting the Bible. AND OF THE LAMB. 38 And all the people came early in the morning to him in the temple, for to hear him. 27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Yes, God is gracious, and ultimately we as believers are no longer under condemnation, as Romans 8:1 says. Thats what He was warning them about. Link to the free book on our website: His Center Recommended Links. . Copyright 2023. We grow food to support a community, build and repair homes, and support the poor, widows, and the fatherless. And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. When Luke 17:34 says, "one will be taken and the other left," the words "one" and "other" are both masculine. My concern is that some in the church are getting there hopes up that they will not have to endure any tribulation. No! Possibly being caught unaware? While Satan has beaten up Pastors and congregations with gross errors being taught in this areado we throw the baby out with the bath water? Each Spiritual gift used for His Glory, helps the entire Body of Christ. Our danger is, lest the day of death and of judgment should come upon us when we are not prepared. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?" 8 And He said: "Take heed that you not be deceived. So where are we going with this point? This is why we point out that in order to understand the timing of a prophecy, we cannot assume anything from our normal guidelines of reading. Reading Luke 21.34-36 Jesus said to his disciples, 'Be on guard so that your hearts are not weighed down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of this life, and that day does not catch you unexpectedly, like a trap. ANSWER:Yes, some people do believe that it is speaking of a pre tribulation rapturesome people will be caught away and will not be here on the earth during the great tribulation period. Verse Luke 21:36. If I need help understanding prophecy, how do I know it is people like His Center that I should be going to for assistance?. If you don't believe in a Rapture, please find our position near the bottom of this article. The term where we get the English "rapture" IS in the Bible. But the textual and scholarly evidence on this question is overwhelming. Just like the Tower of Babel, this false perversion of what Bible prophecy is, allows mankind to think that they are closer to the level of Jesus, in terms of prophecy. Matthew does not record Christ's answer to the first question but does record the answers to questions (2) and (3) which both deal with the second coming of Christ. For more information about the sheep and goat judgment visit, "When and where does the Goat and Sheep judgment occur?" Almost all newer or modern Bibles have the word them in place of us, in Revelation 5:9. INTRODUCTION. 1And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury. So in heaven, just before the Great Tribulation begins, there are believers from all over the worldalready in heaven. What does Colossians 2:9, and other relevant Scriptures, say? We KNOW Christ was/is/never will be limited, and we will kneel before Him believing such. Matthew 24. Jesus warns us in vs. 35 that the events will be a snare for everyone on all the earth. Revelation 7:14 also shows that the ones clothed with white robes are they who came out of great tribulation. Some might read this as a rapture passage due to the fact that not all translations have the word about, even though the Greek word literally means to be about, to be on the point of doing or suffering something and carries an air of expectation. Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. Each gift is part of the BODY of Christ, equally important to the other part of the body! Most Churches definitions are an instant or a flash of time like the flash of a camera. Tribulation-believers are enjoined to stay spiritually alert during those terrible daysto "endure," so as to be physically "saved" (Mat. Any doctrine that brings Jesus' prophetic ability down toward our human level (i.e. LUKE 21:36. Personal updates from Samantha. Luke 21:36 says, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." The instructions to watch and pray refer to us checking ourselves and making sure that we are ready. I don't spend time trying to discern when or if Christ is going to return soon. Luke 21:36 is a passage many believers in the rapture will quote, which says, But watch at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that will take place, and to stand before the Son of man. They believe that this passage is saying that we could escape all of the tribulations spoken of earlier on in Luke 21, which would mean that Luke 21:36 is a reference to a pre-trib rapture. How does this belief benefit any believer in Christwho died for our sins? 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. The second coming is quite different from Paul's description of being raptured in Corinthians. Thus Luke 21:34-36 is not a Rapture passage. Mark 13:32, "No One Except The Father Knows? The point being, this was a message for Jews in pre Tribulation days (for Jews in future times.) The sheep and goat judgment determines who will be allowed to enter Christ's millennial kingdom (Revelation 20:4-6). Pray for the Holy Spirit to teach the truth and show what is to come. A convict could not escape out of prison if he was never in prison. 26 Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. The short answer is that this is how prophecy has been written in the Bible. WE need to align with Gods truth, and understand the meaning of, He comes like a thief in the night. Right? https://www.endtime.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Endtime-Small-Logo-Blue.png, Copyright 2022 All Rights Reserved Endtime Ministries | End Of The Age | Irvin Baxter -, Freedom of Speech Ending? The need to be born again through the blood of Christ, asking for the forgiveness of personal sins, and then following Christ daily, reading the Bible, praying for His will in our lives, praying for our family/Pastor/Government and Israel etc., going to church, getting in a Bible study small group, volunteering, donating of our first fruits, are all part of being Christ-like, and a path to being closer to Jesus. The timing of a prophetic passage is determined by the details described within that passage. He is the author of all the teachings here, and all materials are available free of charge! Luke 21:25 Meaning of And There Shall be Signs in the Sun . 21:7). Some believe this means that the Church will be removed from the earth before the judgment of God - Pre-Trib Rapture. 25-27, Jesus describes for us, what will happen just before His return and then during His return with power and great glory. First, Jesus is saying that the persecution of believers will occur before the other events of the Tribulation are completed, in terms of chronological time. The more of HIS truth we know, the greater our peace, and our burden to share His Salvation message and prophetic truth with others, so they can be ready. It does not use the word rapture but it does use the word harpagsometha . Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. In Matthew 24:4-31, Jesus is clearly giving a prophecy; He is speaking of future events. 15) Jesus was talking about the Tribulation Period when He said, "Pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass" (Luke 21:36). 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